1 00:00:07,930 --> 00:00:05,820 foreign 2 00:00:10,730 --> 00:00:07,940 [Music] 3 00:00:12,830 --> 00:00:10,740 for the first time a former senior 4 00:00:15,709 --> 00:00:12,840 Military Intelligence officer comes 5 00:00:18,650 --> 00:00:15,719 forward to say what we've only imagined 6 00:00:22,310 --> 00:00:18,660 is true you are saying 7 00:00:24,410 --> 00:00:22,320 to the human race for the first time 8 00:00:26,810 --> 00:00:24,420 we are not alone 9 00:00:29,509 --> 00:00:26,820 we're definitely not alone claims that 10 00:00:33,110 --> 00:00:29,519 our government has proof of alien life 11 00:00:36,889 --> 00:00:33,120 we have spacecraft from another species 12 00:00:39,410 --> 00:00:36,899 we do yeah how many quite a number some 13 00:00:42,229 --> 00:00:39,420 are landed some are crashed allegations 14 00:00:45,290 --> 00:00:42,239 of a secret government program that has 15 00:00:47,529 --> 00:00:45,300 hidden the truth the technology from the 16 00:00:49,850 --> 00:00:47,539 world there's a sophisticated 17 00:00:52,069 --> 00:00:49,860 disinformation campaign targeting the 18 00:00:54,229 --> 00:00:52,079 U.S populace which is extremely 19 00:00:56,869 --> 00:00:54,239 unethical and immoral and it's totally 20 00:00:59,830 --> 00:00:56,879 totally frightening from Roswell to the 21 00:01:04,009 --> 00:01:02,229 there are non-presaic cases 100 22 00:01:06,230 --> 00:01:04,019 unexplainable I mean this is like 23 00:01:09,530 --> 00:01:06,240 tangible technical crafter seeing is 24 00:01:11,990 --> 00:01:09,540 this decorated officer a liar why should 25 00:01:14,390 --> 00:01:12,000 we believe you a fool is it possible 26 00:01:17,750 --> 00:01:14,400 that you're deluding yourself or a hero 27 00:01:19,910 --> 00:01:17,760 I'm a patriot and I believe the truth to 28 00:01:22,180 --> 00:01:19,920 power in this we're talking about the 29 00:01:24,230 --> 00:01:22,190 biggest secret in human history 30 00:01:27,710 --> 00:01:24,240 [Music] 31 00:01:31,130 --> 00:01:27,720 we are not alone the UFO whistleblower 32 00:01:35,390 --> 00:01:33,410 good evening I'm Elizabeth Vargas here 33 00:01:38,030 --> 00:01:35,400 to bring you a news Nation exclusive 34 00:01:41,330 --> 00:01:38,040 interview with a man we're calling the 35 00:01:43,429 --> 00:01:41,340 UFO whistleblower David grush is a 36 00:01:46,370 --> 00:01:43,439 career intelligence official who this 37 00:01:48,770 --> 00:01:46,380 week is making some bombshell claims of 38 00:01:52,429 --> 00:01:48,780 a U.S government cover-up going back 39 00:01:55,490 --> 00:01:52,439 nearly a century shedding light he says 40 00:01:58,310 --> 00:01:55,500 on that existential question are we 41 00:02:00,950 --> 00:01:58,320 alone news nation has confirmed David 42 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:00,960 grush's credentials and resume we have 43 00:02:06,609 --> 00:02:04,560 not seen or verified the alleged proof 44 00:02:10,490 --> 00:02:06,619 he says he's provided to investigators 45 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:10,500 but we want you to hear his story so you 46 00:02:16,070 --> 00:02:13,680 can decide for yourself Mr grush sat 47 00:02:18,650 --> 00:02:16,080 down with investigative journalist Ross 48 00:02:20,809 --> 00:02:18,660 coltart who is reporting for news Nation 49 00:02:22,970 --> 00:02:20,819 Mr coldheart is an award-winning 50 00:02:25,070 --> 00:02:22,980 journalist and author who is reported 51 00:02:27,589 --> 00:02:25,080 for the Australian version of 60 Minutes 52 00:02:29,990 --> 00:02:27,599 as well as other news programs in his 53 00:02:32,210 --> 00:02:30,000 home country what you're about to see is 54 00:02:34,850 --> 00:02:32,220 part of their conversation touching on 55 00:02:37,430 --> 00:02:34,860 Mr grush's work with the UAP task force 56 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:37,440 his background and his service to this 57 00:02:43,670 --> 00:02:40,560 country and the alleged secret military 58 00:02:44,990 --> 00:02:43,680 program about which he says the world 59 00:02:48,110 --> 00:02:45,000 needs to know 60 00:02:50,449 --> 00:02:48,120 for decades the UFO question has been 61 00:02:53,809 --> 00:02:50,459 consigned to the realm of speculation 62 00:02:55,970 --> 00:02:53,819 but in recent years serious people have 63 00:02:58,309 --> 00:02:55,980 started taking the subject seriously 64 00:03:00,530 --> 00:02:58,319 you'll see it come through the top of 65 00:03:02,990 --> 00:03:00,540 the screen there it goes prompted in 66 00:03:05,630 --> 00:03:03,000 part by the release of these videos 67 00:03:08,150 --> 00:03:05,640 purporting to show encounters between 68 00:03:11,570 --> 00:03:08,160 American Naval aviators and what the 69 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:11,580 Pentagon has labeled unidentified aerial 70 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:14,400 or anomalous phenomena Congress has 71 00:03:20,449 --> 00:03:16,800 convened hearings to determine what 72 00:03:23,449 --> 00:03:20,459 these UAP are and what threat they might 73 00:03:25,070 --> 00:03:23,459 pose if UAP do indeed represent a 74 00:03:27,290 --> 00:03:25,080 Potential Threat to our security then 75 00:03:29,330 --> 00:03:27,300 the capabilities systems processes and 76 00:03:31,550 --> 00:03:29,340 sources we use to observe recorded study 77 00:03:33,890 --> 00:03:31,560 or analyze these phenomena need to be 78 00:03:36,229 --> 00:03:33,900 classified at appropriate levels the 79 00:03:39,290 --> 00:03:36,239 Department of Defense has established a 80 00:03:42,890 --> 00:03:39,300 special team formerly known as the UAP 81 00:03:46,130 --> 00:03:42,900 task force recently renamed the all 82 00:03:49,490 --> 00:03:46,140 domain anomaly resolution office or 83 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:49,500 Arrow to investigate and identify what 84 00:03:54,949 --> 00:03:51,840 are now hundreds of reported sightings 85 00:03:57,890 --> 00:03:54,959 so far they have not confirmed any of 86 00:04:00,410 --> 00:03:57,900 them to constitute proof of alien life 87 00:04:05,149 --> 00:04:00,420 officially the government continues to 88 00:04:07,789 --> 00:04:05,159 State we are indeed alone but now for 89 00:04:10,190 --> 00:04:07,799 the first time a former member of that 90 00:04:12,289 --> 00:04:10,200 official investigative team is speaking 91 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:12,299 out telling a stunning story that 92 00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:15,599 impacts every person on this planet 93 00:04:20,689 --> 00:04:18,000 and now you're about to meet that man 94 00:04:24,290 --> 00:04:20,699 for the very first time in this 95 00:04:25,969 --> 00:04:24,300 exclusive television interview 96 00:04:30,469 --> 00:04:25,979 welcome 97 00:04:35,629 --> 00:04:32,930 maybe start off telling me your name and 98 00:04:37,370 --> 00:04:35,639 who you are my name is uh David grush 99 00:04:39,170 --> 00:04:37,380 you know I came from a blue-collar 100 00:04:40,610 --> 00:04:39,180 family in Pittsburgh I didn't have the 101 00:04:43,790 --> 00:04:40,620 money for college 102 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:43,800 always admired people in uniform and 103 00:04:47,090 --> 00:04:45,120 I've always wanted to be a part of 104 00:04:49,909 --> 00:04:47,100 something bigger than myself you know 18 105 00:04:52,550 --> 00:04:49,919 years ago you know I got a Air Force 106 00:04:54,050 --> 00:04:52,560 scholarship for physics I originally 107 00:04:57,350 --> 00:04:54,060 commissioned on active duty in the Air 108 00:04:59,510 --> 00:04:57,360 Force served 14 years in the Air Force I 109 00:05:02,570 --> 00:04:59,520 look at this Photograph Dave 110 00:05:04,370 --> 00:05:02,580 and I see a very proud officer I was 111 00:05:06,290 --> 00:05:04,380 getting promoted the captain when I was 112 00:05:08,689 --> 00:05:06,300 deployed and you still love your country 113 00:05:11,570 --> 00:05:08,699 don't you absolutely a career 114 00:05:13,730 --> 00:05:11,580 intelligence officer grush spent time on 115 00:05:16,610 --> 00:05:13,740 the ground in Afghanistan and other 116 00:05:19,490 --> 00:05:16,620 places he can't mention before rotating 117 00:05:22,610 --> 00:05:19,500 back to Washington I was an Intel 118 00:05:26,409 --> 00:05:22,620 officer for the U.S for 14 years my last 119 00:05:29,570 --> 00:05:26,419 position which I left in April of 2023 120 00:05:31,430 --> 00:05:29,580 I co-led the UAP portfolio for the 121 00:05:33,350 --> 00:05:31,440 National geospatial Intelligence Agency 122 00:05:34,850 --> 00:05:33,360 and some of the highest officials within 123 00:05:36,770 --> 00:05:34,860 the Department of Defense and 124 00:05:38,570 --> 00:05:36,780 intelligence Community used to call on 125 00:05:41,930 --> 00:05:38,580 me to advise them on some of the hardest 126 00:05:44,990 --> 00:05:41,940 Target sets that the country had you are 127 00:05:47,390 --> 00:05:45,000 one of the most trusted 128 00:05:49,010 --> 00:05:47,400 former intelligence officials in the U.S 129 00:05:51,590 --> 00:05:49,020 defense and intelligence establishment 130 00:05:53,330 --> 00:05:51,600 yes I was you were trusted with the most 131 00:05:54,590 --> 00:05:53,340 Intimate Secrets 132 00:05:57,529 --> 00:05:54,600 yes 133 00:06:00,409 --> 00:05:57,539 and he says the most earth-shattering of 134 00:06:04,189 --> 00:06:00,419 those secrets were revealed after 2019 135 00:06:05,810 --> 00:06:04,199 when he was invited to join the UAP task 136 00:06:09,050 --> 00:06:05,820 force you had the security 137 00:06:13,249 --> 00:06:09,060 classifications to go anywhere and ask 138 00:06:14,390 --> 00:06:13,259 anyone anything I had based on my formal 139 00:06:17,390 --> 00:06:14,400 security clearance and multiple 140 00:06:20,990 --> 00:06:17,400 polygraphs I had the ability uh to be 141 00:06:23,570 --> 00:06:21,000 read into any program that I needed at 142 00:06:26,570 --> 00:06:23,580 one point in time I was extremely highly 143 00:06:29,150 --> 00:06:26,580 cleared what conclusion did you come to 144 00:06:32,510 --> 00:06:29,160 at the end of your time on the UAP task 145 00:06:36,590 --> 00:06:32,520 force the UAP task forces refused access 146 00:06:38,510 --> 00:06:36,600 to a broad crash retrieval program 147 00:06:39,230 --> 00:06:38,520 when you say crash retrieval what do you 148 00:06:42,170 --> 00:06:39,240 mean 149 00:06:44,689 --> 00:06:42,180 these are retrieving non-human origin 150 00:06:47,510 --> 00:06:44,699 technical Vehicles you know call it 151 00:06:50,090 --> 00:06:47,520 spacecraft if you will non-human exotic 152 00:06:53,090 --> 00:06:50,100 origin vehicles that have either landed 153 00:06:55,610 --> 00:06:53,100 or crashed we have spacecraft from 154 00:06:57,050 --> 00:06:55,620 another species we do yeah 155 00:07:00,770 --> 00:06:57,060 how many 156 00:07:02,210 --> 00:07:00,780 quite a number you're kidding no I 157 00:07:04,189 --> 00:07:02,220 thought it was totally nuts and I 158 00:07:06,710 --> 00:07:04,199 thought at first I was being deceived it 159 00:07:09,650 --> 00:07:06,720 was a ruse people started confiding in 160 00:07:11,090 --> 00:07:09,660 me they approached me I have plenty of 161 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:11,100 current former senior Intelligence 162 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:13,440 Officers that came to me many which I 163 00:07:17,029 --> 00:07:15,360 knew almost my whole career that 164 00:07:19,370 --> 00:07:17,039 confided to me they were a part of a 165 00:07:20,950 --> 00:07:19,380 program they named the program I've 166 00:07:24,529 --> 00:07:20,960 never heard of it 167 00:07:25,790 --> 00:07:24,539 and they they told me based on the oral 168 00:07:27,350 --> 00:07:25,800 testimony 169 00:07:28,909 --> 00:07:27,360 um and they provided me documents and 170 00:07:30,830 --> 00:07:28,919 other other proof 171 00:07:33,430 --> 00:07:30,840 that there was in fact a program that 172 00:07:36,490 --> 00:07:33,440 the UAP task force was uh not read into 173 00:07:40,730 --> 00:07:36,500 you are alleging that the U.S government 174 00:07:41,990 --> 00:07:40,740 has been concealing the existence on 175 00:07:44,450 --> 00:07:42,000 this planet 176 00:07:46,370 --> 00:07:44,460 of alien life 177 00:07:48,409 --> 00:07:46,380 I would couch it as non-human 178 00:07:50,390 --> 00:07:48,419 intelligence you know nhi like we would 179 00:07:52,670 --> 00:07:50,400 like to say in our our language why do 180 00:07:54,469 --> 00:07:52,680 you say that why do you say nhi I don't 181 00:07:56,029 --> 00:07:54,479 want to necessarily denote origin I 182 00:07:59,210 --> 00:07:56,039 don't think we have all the data to say 183 00:08:01,550 --> 00:07:59,220 oh they're coming from a certain a 184 00:08:02,990 --> 00:08:01,560 certain location and I and I I couch it 185 00:08:04,670 --> 00:08:03,000 as somebody who studied physics where 186 00:08:06,770 --> 00:08:04,680 maybe they're coming from a different 187 00:08:08,689 --> 00:08:06,780 physical Dimension as described in 188 00:08:11,629 --> 00:08:08,699 quantum mechanics we know there's extra 189 00:08:13,670 --> 00:08:11,639 Dimensions due to higher high energy 190 00:08:15,110 --> 00:08:13,680 particle collisions Etc and there's a 191 00:08:16,670 --> 00:08:15,120 theoretical framework to explain that 192 00:08:20,089 --> 00:08:16,680 yeah just let me cut to the quick though 193 00:08:22,969 --> 00:08:20,099 you're saying there is an intelligent 194 00:08:25,070 --> 00:08:22,979 species engaging with this planet yes 195 00:08:27,230 --> 00:08:25,080 that's potentially extraterrestrial yeah 196 00:08:32,930 --> 00:08:27,240 I speak for everybody sitting at home 197 00:08:35,510 --> 00:08:32,940 that is a shock it was to me and I had a 198 00:08:38,149 --> 00:08:35,520 lot of sleepless nights grush says he's 199 00:08:40,730 --> 00:08:38,159 never personally seen non-human 200 00:08:43,670 --> 00:08:40,740 intelligence but he's spoken to enough 201 00:08:45,949 --> 00:08:43,680 people directly involved in what he 202 00:08:48,769 --> 00:08:45,959 calls the pro program that he's 203 00:08:50,810 --> 00:08:48,779 convinced it's real I started out as a 204 00:08:53,630 --> 00:08:50,820 non-believer I came to the the problem 205 00:08:55,550 --> 00:08:53,640 as a hardcore physics guy Intel officer 206 00:08:58,150 --> 00:08:55,560 so I have a you know excuse my language 207 00:09:00,230 --> 00:08:58,160 high factor I was very methodical 208 00:09:02,269 --> 00:09:00,240 interviewing people who didn't know each 209 00:09:04,670 --> 00:09:02,279 other making sure this wasn't some kind 210 00:09:07,610 --> 00:09:04,680 of cover-up of some other program he 211 00:09:09,889 --> 00:09:07,620 says he pressed to gain direct access to 212 00:09:12,590 --> 00:09:09,899 this program and that's when his trouble 213 00:09:15,650 --> 00:09:12,600 started Crush claims his investigation 214 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:15,660 was stymied his requests for Access 215 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:18,000 rebuffed they shut the door on my face 216 00:09:23,150 --> 00:09:19,920 they denied me access to these programs 217 00:09:26,269 --> 00:09:23,160 soon after he says he endured reprisals 218 00:09:28,310 --> 00:09:26,279 and retaliation from above he then 219 00:09:30,610 --> 00:09:28,320 reported that information to the 220 00:09:34,250 --> 00:09:30,620 intelligence Community Inspector General 221 00:09:37,550 --> 00:09:34,260 that's why he's filed this whistleblower 222 00:09:40,730 --> 00:09:37,560 complaint he says that experience is why 223 00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:40,740 he decided to go public here and in a 224 00:09:46,250 --> 00:09:43,860 recent article written by Leslie Kane in 225 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:46,260 the debris you're not being paid for 226 00:09:50,449 --> 00:09:48,240 this interview no I'm not why are you 227 00:09:52,910 --> 00:09:50,459 doing this it's a sense of service you 228 00:09:54,769 --> 00:09:52,920 know call me a Boy Scout or whatever it 229 00:09:57,230 --> 00:09:54,779 just say when I saw the kind of 230 00:10:00,650 --> 00:09:57,240 wrongdoing I did I don't want to be 60 231 00:10:02,990 --> 00:10:00,660 70 years old in the future and uh have 232 00:10:05,329 --> 00:10:03,000 that you know Coulda Shoulda Woulda kind 233 00:10:07,790 --> 00:10:05,339 of uh feeling where I I could have made 234 00:10:11,030 --> 00:10:07,800 a difference I did not want to live a 235 00:10:14,449 --> 00:10:11,040 life of regret you are saying 236 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:14,459 to the human race for the first time 237 00:10:18,710 --> 00:10:16,560 an official 238 00:10:21,350 --> 00:10:18,720 intelligence representative at a high 239 00:10:22,490 --> 00:10:21,360 level from the U.S government is saying 240 00:10:24,769 --> 00:10:22,500 publicly 241 00:10:27,170 --> 00:10:24,779 we are not alone we're definitely not 242 00:10:29,090 --> 00:10:27,180 alone absolutely the data points 243 00:10:32,150 --> 00:10:29,100 empirically that we're not alone yeah 244 00:10:34,310 --> 00:10:32,160 you've said that we have the United 245 00:10:36,050 --> 00:10:34,320 States has 246 00:10:38,630 --> 00:10:36,060 spacecraft 247 00:10:42,250 --> 00:10:38,640 intact craft we do 248 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:42,260 do we have bodies do we have species 249 00:10:46,670 --> 00:10:45,360 well naturally when you recover 250 00:10:47,690 --> 00:10:46,680 something that's either landed or 251 00:10:48,290 --> 00:10:47,700 crashed 252 00:10:51,230 --> 00:10:48,300 um 253 00:10:53,990 --> 00:10:51,240 sometimes you encounter dead pilots and 254 00:10:56,269 --> 00:10:54,000 believe it or not as fan as Fantastical 255 00:11:00,170 --> 00:10:56,279 as that sounds 256 00:11:01,550 --> 00:11:00,180 it's true have you seen spacecraft I've 257 00:11:03,470 --> 00:11:01,560 seen some interesting photos and I've 258 00:11:06,230 --> 00:11:03,480 read some very interesting reports but 259 00:11:09,110 --> 00:11:06,240 he says the specific documents and 260 00:11:12,170 --> 00:11:09,120 photos that would prove his claims are 261 00:11:14,269 --> 00:11:12,180 still classified and he cannot disclose 262 00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:14,279 them here let's deal with the issue of 263 00:11:19,490 --> 00:11:16,800 your credibility 264 00:11:22,069 --> 00:11:19,500 why should we believe you you're just 265 00:11:25,310 --> 00:11:22,079 somebody coming out of nowhere making 266 00:11:26,930 --> 00:11:25,320 claims that we really ultimately can't 267 00:11:29,449 --> 00:11:26,940 prove yeah 268 00:11:31,250 --> 00:11:29,459 well we we provided the the proof 269 00:11:34,069 --> 00:11:31,260 internally to the Inspector General and 270 00:11:37,009 --> 00:11:34,079 the hill staff when all the details I 271 00:11:39,230 --> 00:11:37,019 mean I have the credentials uh I was an 272 00:11:42,110 --> 00:11:39,240 intelligence officer on the UAP task 273 00:11:45,290 --> 00:11:42,120 force but let's face it allegations of 274 00:11:47,990 --> 00:11:45,300 aliens and this spacecraft are hard to 275 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:48,000 accept even coming from a respected 276 00:11:55,130 --> 00:11:51,120 Insider even if you call them nhi and 277 00:11:58,190 --> 00:11:55,140 UAP how could such nhi travel to earth 278 00:12:00,769 --> 00:11:58,200 in the first place and go undetected by 279 00:12:04,250 --> 00:12:00,779 the general public grush says the craft 280 00:12:07,269 --> 00:12:04,260 may not be traveling through space as we 281 00:12:09,650 --> 00:12:07,279 understand it it is a well established 282 00:12:12,290 --> 00:12:09,660 fact at least mathematically and based 283 00:12:14,410 --> 00:12:12,300 on empirical observation and Analysis 284 00:12:17,569 --> 00:12:14,420 that there most likely are physical 285 00:12:20,329 --> 00:12:17,579 additional spatial Dimensions you could 286 00:12:22,850 --> 00:12:20,339 imagine on four and five d space where 287 00:12:24,769 --> 00:12:22,860 what we experience is linear time ends 288 00:12:26,630 --> 00:12:24,779 up being a physical dimension for in 289 00:12:28,430 --> 00:12:26,640 higher dimensional space where if you 290 00:12:31,430 --> 00:12:28,440 were living there you could translate 291 00:12:33,850 --> 00:12:31,440 across what we perceive as a linear flow 292 00:12:37,009 --> 00:12:33,860 so there is a 293 00:12:39,290 --> 00:12:37,019 possibility that and this is a theory 294 00:12:40,730 --> 00:12:39,300 here I'm not saying this is 100 the case 295 00:12:43,370 --> 00:12:40,740 but 296 00:12:45,710 --> 00:12:43,380 uh it could be that this is not 297 00:12:47,329 --> 00:12:45,720 necessarily extraterrestrial and that's 298 00:12:49,970 --> 00:12:47,339 actually coming from a higher 299 00:12:51,769 --> 00:12:49,980 dimensional physical space that might be 300 00:12:54,829 --> 00:12:51,779 co-located 301 00:12:57,710 --> 00:12:54,839 um you know right here what can you tell 302 00:13:01,430 --> 00:12:57,720 me about these craft these Technologies 303 00:13:04,310 --> 00:13:01,440 why do you know it's exotic uh based on 304 00:13:06,769 --> 00:13:04,320 uh the very specific properties that I 305 00:13:08,870 --> 00:13:06,779 was briefed on you know isotopic ratios 306 00:13:10,250 --> 00:13:08,880 that would have to be engineered for it 307 00:13:12,290 --> 00:13:10,260 to be 308 00:13:15,650 --> 00:13:12,300 um at those levels but also just 309 00:13:19,009 --> 00:13:15,660 extremely uh 310 00:13:21,470 --> 00:13:19,019 strange heavy Atomic metal you know high 311 00:13:24,590 --> 00:13:21,480 up in the periodic table Arrangements 312 00:13:26,509 --> 00:13:24,600 that we don't understand you know what 313 00:13:30,170 --> 00:13:26,519 the emergent properties are but there's 314 00:13:33,290 --> 00:13:30,180 just a very strange mix of um elements 315 00:13:35,870 --> 00:13:33,300 so you're absolutely sure that the 316 00:13:39,350 --> 00:13:35,880 materials that these crafts are made of 317 00:13:41,810 --> 00:13:39,360 are clearly not of this Earth yeah 318 00:13:44,509 --> 00:13:41,820 they're sophisticatedly engineered 319 00:13:47,389 --> 00:13:44,519 um certainly not by humans and while 320 00:13:49,370 --> 00:13:47,399 grush says the U.S has gleaned some 321 00:13:52,490 --> 00:13:49,380 insight from these materials for 322 00:13:56,030 --> 00:13:52,500 military use so much more could be done 323 00:14:00,129 --> 00:13:56,040 if Academia and the private sector had 324 00:14:02,750 --> 00:14:00,139 access it's totally nuts that uh 325 00:14:04,490 --> 00:14:02,760 Humanity as a whole especially you know 326 00:14:07,190 --> 00:14:04,500 the U.S citizenry on hold they're not 327 00:14:10,150 --> 00:14:07,200 even benefiting from broad research on 328 00:14:13,490 --> 00:14:10,160 this to solve you know propulsion energy 329 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:13,500 issues novel Material Science that can 330 00:14:18,889 --> 00:14:15,600 prove people's quality of life it's just 331 00:14:22,790 --> 00:14:18,899 totally nuts uh how it's been protected 332 00:14:25,009 --> 00:14:22,800 and inhibits progress if you're right if 333 00:14:28,970 --> 00:14:25,019 you're telling us the truth 334 00:14:31,970 --> 00:14:28,980 everyone the entire American public has 335 00:14:34,610 --> 00:14:31,980 been lied to for decades yeah there's a 336 00:14:37,069 --> 00:14:34,620 sophisticated uh disinformation campaign 337 00:14:39,230 --> 00:14:37,079 targeting the U.S populace which is 338 00:14:43,189 --> 00:14:39,240 extremely unethical and immoral coming 339 00:14:45,050 --> 00:14:43,199 up how long has this been going on a lot 340 00:14:46,190 --> 00:14:45,060 of the things I was briefed on were very 341 00:14:51,650 --> 00:14:46,200 shocking 342 00:14:56,530 --> 00:14:51,660 [Music] 343 00:15:04,850 --> 00:15:01,030 so let's start from the very beginning 344 00:15:08,930 --> 00:15:04,860 you say it's a 90-year cover-up 345 00:15:11,689 --> 00:15:08,940 just about yeah 90 years 1933 was the 346 00:15:14,930 --> 00:15:11,699 first recovery in Europe in magenta 347 00:15:18,050 --> 00:15:14,940 Italy they recovered a partially intact 348 00:15:21,129 --> 00:15:18,060 vehicle it's long been known that the 349 00:15:24,949 --> 00:15:21,139 regime of dictator Benito Mussolini 350 00:15:27,829 --> 00:15:24,959 documented numerous UAP during this time 351 00:15:31,610 --> 00:15:27,839 this internal Memo from the Italian 352 00:15:35,629 --> 00:15:31,620 secret Services includes crude drawings 353 00:15:37,370 --> 00:15:35,639 of the uaps it's true it's real yeah 354 00:15:39,470 --> 00:15:37,380 that actually happened Italian 355 00:15:42,110 --> 00:15:39,480 government moved it to a 356 00:15:43,730 --> 00:15:42,120 secure air base in Italy for the the 357 00:15:47,150 --> 00:15:43,740 rest of kind of the fascist regime until 358 00:15:49,370 --> 00:15:47,160 1944 1945 and you know the Pope Pius the 359 00:15:51,410 --> 00:15:49,380 12th back channel that so the Vatican 360 00:15:53,210 --> 00:15:51,420 was involved yeah and told the Americans 361 00:15:55,550 --> 00:15:53,220 what the Italians had and and we ended 362 00:15:56,990 --> 00:15:55,560 up scooping it so let me be very clear 363 00:15:59,990 --> 00:15:57,000 about this you're saying that the 364 00:16:02,090 --> 00:16:00,000 Catholic Church the Vatican they know 365 00:16:04,810 --> 00:16:02,100 about the existence of non-human 366 00:16:08,210 --> 00:16:04,820 Intelligence on this planet certainly 367 00:16:11,569 --> 00:16:08,220 grush says shortly after the dawn of the 368 00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:11,579 atomic age another major crash recovery 369 00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:14,940 took place you've probably heard of it 370 00:16:17,750 --> 00:16:16,800 what can you tell me about the Roswell 371 00:16:21,230 --> 00:16:17,760 craft 372 00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:21,240 fortunately those details were not 373 00:16:27,470 --> 00:16:23,279 approved for me to talk about right now 374 00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:27,480 this much we know in 1947 an object 375 00:16:32,689 --> 00:16:30,000 crashed in the New Mexico desert near 376 00:16:35,269 --> 00:16:32,699 the town of Roswell the Air Force 377 00:16:37,329 --> 00:16:35,279 recovered material described as metallic 378 00:16:40,090 --> 00:16:37,339 and rubbery though the government 379 00:16:44,210 --> 00:16:40,100 changed its story as to what it was 380 00:16:46,370 --> 00:16:44,220 calling it a flying disc at first then a 381 00:16:48,410 --> 00:16:46,380 weather or spy balloon it just read 382 00:16:50,449 --> 00:16:48,420 ridiculous to me that the U.S Air Force 383 00:16:52,370 --> 00:16:50,459 had changed its story yeah and they 384 00:16:55,310 --> 00:16:52,380 added additional elements over time and 385 00:16:57,710 --> 00:16:55,320 and tried to conflict additional 386 00:17:00,829 --> 00:16:57,720 programs to explain some of the events 387 00:17:01,850 --> 00:17:00,839 why are these things crashing yeah you 388 00:17:04,250 --> 00:17:01,860 know some 389 00:17:05,809 --> 00:17:04,260 some are landed some are crashed and I 390 00:17:08,569 --> 00:17:05,819 think that's an interesting discussion 391 00:17:10,789 --> 00:17:08,579 that's come up you know as advanced as 392 00:17:13,130 --> 00:17:10,799 you know we are you know as humans right 393 00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:13,140 you know planes crash cars crash just 394 00:17:16,789 --> 00:17:15,360 because you're some Advanced sentience 395 00:17:18,110 --> 00:17:16,799 that has advanced technology doesn't 396 00:17:21,230 --> 00:17:18,120 mean 397 00:17:23,929 --> 00:17:21,240 um some small percentage of your I'll 398 00:17:26,449 --> 00:17:23,939 use the Air Force term like sorties 399 00:17:28,669 --> 00:17:26,459 um you know meet an unfortunate 400 00:17:29,510 --> 00:17:28,679 operational conclusion as we might want 401 00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:29,520 to say 402 00:17:35,690 --> 00:17:32,160 most people would tell you the Roswell 403 00:17:37,850 --> 00:17:35,700 incident has been thoroughly debunked in 404 00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:37,860 fact the Air Force published this report 405 00:17:45,169 --> 00:17:42,000 in 1994 to put the issue to rest once 406 00:17:47,930 --> 00:17:45,179 and for all grush has read it that 407 00:17:50,630 --> 00:17:47,940 analysis they did was a total hack job 408 00:17:52,730 --> 00:17:50,640 and even anybody with analytical skills 409 00:17:54,669 --> 00:17:52,740 if you read it you can you can deduce 410 00:17:57,230 --> 00:17:54,679 that they're conflating multiple 411 00:17:59,090 --> 00:17:57,240 situations with cross-test dummies and 412 00:18:01,370 --> 00:17:59,100 then Mogul balloons and they're just 413 00:18:03,250 --> 00:18:01,380 saying that the townsfolk who personally 414 00:18:05,870 --> 00:18:03,260 witnessed it were totally 415 00:18:08,270 --> 00:18:05,880 imagining things they concocted that 416 00:18:13,190 --> 00:18:08,280 whole report just to disinformed so the 417 00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:13,200 reason for the secrecy exactly is what 418 00:18:19,370 --> 00:18:16,799 um feudalistic dominance who can have 419 00:18:22,010 --> 00:18:19,380 um both asymmetic asymmetric technology 420 00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:22,020 for it seems like just fuel in the war 421 00:18:27,890 --> 00:18:24,780 machine grush says that through the 50s 422 00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:27,900 and 60s encounters with the nhi 423 00:18:34,430 --> 00:18:31,200 continued as did the cover-up one 424 00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:34,440 incident in 1967 about which multiple 425 00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:36,320 Air Force veterans have gone public 426 00:18:42,830 --> 00:18:39,840 involved uaps tampering with the nuclear 427 00:18:45,770 --> 00:18:42,840 missiles at Malmstrom Air Base in 428 00:18:48,470 --> 00:18:45,780 Montana they saw a craft appearing to be 429 00:18:53,049 --> 00:18:48,480 intelligently controlled hovered over a 430 00:18:57,409 --> 00:18:53,059 nuclear weapon Silo and shut down 10 431 00:18:59,590 --> 00:18:57,419 nuclear ICBM missiles it certainly looks 432 00:19:03,470 --> 00:18:59,600 like they want to understand 433 00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:03,480 how far we've advanced in our nuclear 434 00:19:07,789 --> 00:19:05,760 fizzle kind of Technologies at the very 435 00:19:10,010 --> 00:19:07,799 least I mean it looks like Preparatory 436 00:19:12,110 --> 00:19:10,020 probing activity it might be innocent 437 00:19:15,770 --> 00:19:12,120 kind of scientific Gathering could be I 438 00:19:18,770 --> 00:19:15,780 ISR probing meanwhile grush says the 439 00:19:21,409 --> 00:19:18,780 crash retrieval program continued and 440 00:19:24,110 --> 00:19:21,419 while he won't reveal where the downed 441 00:19:26,450 --> 00:19:24,120 craft are stored he does say that the 442 00:19:29,330 --> 00:19:26,460 people working with the technology have 443 00:19:32,029 --> 00:19:29,340 been putting themselves at risk you know 444 00:19:33,890 --> 00:19:32,039 a lot of them you know were injured 445 00:19:35,570 --> 00:19:33,900 looking at some of this stuff you could 446 00:19:38,690 --> 00:19:35,580 imagine the nuclear radiological 447 00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:38,700 biological risk to looking at an unknown 448 00:19:43,850 --> 00:19:41,520 unknown and a lot of them have literally 449 00:19:47,330 --> 00:19:43,860 suffered physically because of their 450 00:19:49,909 --> 00:19:47,340 service but as we know anyone who's come 451 00:19:52,430 --> 00:19:49,919 forward claiming non-human intelligence 452 00:19:55,010 --> 00:19:52,440 is Behind These incidents has been 453 00:19:58,010 --> 00:19:55,020 dismissed as delusional or deliberately 454 00:19:59,990 --> 00:19:58,020 deceitful if you're right if you're 455 00:20:03,950 --> 00:20:00,000 telling us the truth 456 00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:03,960 everyone the entire American public has 457 00:20:09,650 --> 00:20:06,960 been lied to for decades yeah there's a 458 00:20:12,049 --> 00:20:09,660 sophisticated disinformation campaign 459 00:20:14,210 --> 00:20:12,059 targeting the U.S populace which is 460 00:20:15,669 --> 00:20:14,220 extremely unethical and immoral coming 461 00:20:19,070 --> 00:20:15,679 up 462 00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:19,080 new evidence and perhaps New Attitudes 463 00:20:26,330 --> 00:20:22,799 in a new age of uaps the American people 464 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:26,340 need and deserve to know more has the 465 00:20:32,030 --> 00:20:29,130 U.S government changed its tune 466 00:20:32,490 --> 00:20:32,040 [Music] 467 00:20:35,710 --> 00:20:32,500 [Applause] 468 00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:35,720 [Music] 469 00:20:41,029 --> 00:20:37,760 foreign 470 00:20:43,789 --> 00:20:41,039 these are the videos that started it all 471 00:20:46,669 --> 00:20:43,799 footage captured by Naval aviators on 472 00:20:49,850 --> 00:20:46,679 military-grade cameras that defied all 473 00:20:53,690 --> 00:20:49,860 prosaic explanation Dave grush has 474 00:20:56,270 --> 00:20:53,700 investigated this one shot in 2015 off 475 00:20:59,510 --> 00:20:56,280 the east coast by fighter pilots from 476 00:21:01,789 --> 00:20:59,520 the USS Theodore Roosevelt there is an 477 00:21:04,610 --> 00:21:01,799 industry of debunkers out there on the 478 00:21:06,590 --> 00:21:04,620 web who say oh they've got this all 479 00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:06,600 wrong it's a jet exhaust at a distance 480 00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:09,360 and the aircraft's turning 481 00:21:13,130 --> 00:21:11,039 give me an answer on that I had some 482 00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,140 Optical engineering experts look at that 483 00:21:18,529 --> 00:21:15,840 and the Raytheon 80 flear system based 484 00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:18,539 on the pixel saturation and apparent 485 00:21:22,730 --> 00:21:20,640 size it's certainly something that's not 486 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:22,740 a jet it might be some kind of natural 487 00:21:28,250 --> 00:21:24,960 phenomenon it's quite strange but it's 488 00:21:31,970 --> 00:21:28,260 not as simple as a jet he has even 489 00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:31,980 stronger opinions about this UAP now 490 00:21:38,690 --> 00:21:34,880 known to history as the Tic Tac shot in 491 00:21:41,390 --> 00:21:38,700 2004 in the Pacific by aviators off the 492 00:21:45,230 --> 00:21:41,400 USS Nimitz and the Tic Tac 493 00:21:47,870 --> 00:21:45,240 truly anomalous absolutely uh technical 494 00:21:50,630 --> 00:21:47,880 vehicle physical and that's absolutely 495 00:21:52,909 --> 00:21:50,640 uh something that we didn't make not of 496 00:21:56,090 --> 00:21:52,919 this world most likely yeah the videos 497 00:21:59,450 --> 00:21:56,100 were leaked in 2017 then officially 498 00:22:01,730 --> 00:21:59,460 released by The Pentagon in 2020 at the 499 00:22:04,010 --> 00:22:01,740 time it seemed the Pentagon may have 500 00:22:06,649 --> 00:22:04,020 finally abandoned its obsession with 501 00:22:09,010 --> 00:22:06,659 secrecy and decided to do what other 502 00:22:12,049 --> 00:22:09,020 countries have been doing for decades 503 00:22:15,049 --> 00:22:12,059 establish a properly funded publicly 504 00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:15,059 accountable team to investigate reports 505 00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:19,200 of UAP Dave grush was part of their team 506 00:22:24,590 --> 00:22:22,559 this is a Hunt mission for what might 507 00:22:26,990 --> 00:22:24,600 somebody be doing in our backyard that 508 00:22:29,090 --> 00:22:27,000 we don't know about the task force set 509 00:22:31,490 --> 00:22:29,100 about investigating these incidents 510 00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:31,500 including more recent events like the 511 00:22:37,730 --> 00:22:33,600 odd encounters that took place during 512 00:22:41,330 --> 00:22:37,740 Naval exercises in 2019 off the coast of 513 00:22:44,750 --> 00:22:41,340 San Diego this video shot on the USS 514 00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:44,760 Omaha and later leaked to documentarian 515 00:22:51,169 --> 00:22:48,000 Jeremy corbill has received particular 516 00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:51,179 attention it either zooms off so fast 517 00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:53,039 you can't see it or it sinks into the 518 00:22:57,649 --> 00:22:55,200 ocean but it seems to drop what do you 519 00:23:00,110 --> 00:22:57,659 know about it it was truly anomalous but 520 00:23:03,110 --> 00:23:00,120 grush says the promised new age of 521 00:23:05,210 --> 00:23:03,120 government transparency is a fallacy for 522 00:23:07,610 --> 00:23:05,220 starters he says the videos that have 523 00:23:09,890 --> 00:23:07,620 been released are just the tip of the 524 00:23:12,049 --> 00:23:09,900 iceberg there are many videos that are 525 00:23:15,049 --> 00:23:12,059 totally fair to release through a 526 00:23:16,970 --> 00:23:15,059 declassification process and I find it 527 00:23:19,250 --> 00:23:16,980 very concerning from a transparency 528 00:23:21,770 --> 00:23:19,260 perspective that all that the department 529 00:23:25,070 --> 00:23:21,780 is Declassified were those three famous 530 00:23:27,529 --> 00:23:25,080 videos there are more concerning videos 531 00:23:29,810 --> 00:23:27,539 that left me with a lot of questions 532 00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:29,820 yeah he says there are credible 533 00:23:37,010 --> 00:23:32,880 Witnesses who could testify to Congress 534 00:23:40,130 --> 00:23:37,020 about spacecraft big spacecraft a lot of 535 00:23:43,490 --> 00:23:40,140 them were very large very large yeah 536 00:23:45,049 --> 00:23:43,500 like a football field kind of size and I 537 00:23:47,450 --> 00:23:45,059 remember interviewing these Personnel 538 00:23:49,730 --> 00:23:47,460 I'm like even these people are lying to 539 00:23:52,130 --> 00:23:49,740 me they're having a psychotic break or 540 00:23:54,409 --> 00:23:52,140 this is some 541 00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,419 crazy but true stuff that's happening 542 00:23:59,450 --> 00:23:56,400 and I have no good explanation that's 543 00:24:02,870 --> 00:23:59,460 prosaic at all for this because this is 544 00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:02,880 not explainable by you know swamp gas St 545 00:24:07,310 --> 00:24:05,760 Elmo's Fireball lightning etc etc I mean 546 00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:07,320 this is like tangible technical craft 547 00:24:10,430 --> 00:24:08,820 they're seeing 548 00:24:12,649 --> 00:24:10,440 um up close and personal in some cases 549 00:24:14,930 --> 00:24:12,659 when I interview people and at the 550 00:24:16,669 --> 00:24:14,940 center of it all the crash retrieval 551 00:24:19,490 --> 00:24:16,679 program the government has never 552 00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:19,500 publicly acknowledged a program rush 553 00:24:24,649 --> 00:24:22,080 says that's included at least one 554 00:24:27,049 --> 00:24:24,659 private Aerospace company that is 555 00:24:28,730 --> 00:24:27,059 storing alien craft 556 00:24:31,070 --> 00:24:28,740 is that true 557 00:24:34,010 --> 00:24:31,080 that is how a lot of these relationships 558 00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:34,020 are while I I don't want to name the 559 00:24:37,370 --> 00:24:35,039 specific companies and government 560 00:24:39,950 --> 00:24:37,380 elements but to 561 00:24:42,169 --> 00:24:39,960 overall you know the government has been 562 00:24:44,930 --> 00:24:42,179 the custodian of a lot of this right and 563 00:24:47,149 --> 00:24:44,940 they'll hand recede it out to a clear 564 00:24:48,890 --> 00:24:47,159 defense contractor to do some analysis 565 00:24:50,930 --> 00:24:48,900 which 566 00:24:52,850 --> 00:24:50,940 I find highly unethical you have 567 00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:52,860 basically a sole source Arrangement and 568 00:24:57,230 --> 00:24:54,320 you allow certain 569 00:24:59,930 --> 00:24:57,240 private corporate elements to look at 570 00:25:01,370 --> 00:24:59,940 this develop but a potential insight and 571 00:25:03,470 --> 00:25:01,380 then sell it back to the government for 572 00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:03,480 profit and I think that's totally 573 00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:06,480 unethical the problem you've got is to 574 00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:10,080 have been categorical denials from 575 00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:11,760 high-level officials in the U.S 576 00:25:15,710 --> 00:25:14,100 government even presidents 577 00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:15,720 that what you're saying is true 578 00:25:20,450 --> 00:25:17,760 unfortunately some elected officials 579 00:25:23,570 --> 00:25:20,460 were not brought in only a few weeks ago 580 00:25:26,810 --> 00:25:23,580 19th of April the head of the pentagon's 581 00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:26,820 UAP investigations program Dr Sean 582 00:25:31,010 --> 00:25:28,320 Kirkpatrick 583 00:25:33,890 --> 00:25:31,020 told Congress Arrow that's the 584 00:25:37,789 --> 00:25:33,900 pentagon's UFO investigation body 585 00:25:41,630 --> 00:25:37,799 has found no credible evidence thus far 586 00:25:45,470 --> 00:25:41,640 of extraterrestrial activity off-world 587 00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:45,480 technology or objects that defy the 588 00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:48,000 known laws of physics while a large 589 00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:50,159 number of cases in our Holdings remain 590 00:25:55,490 --> 00:25:53,039 technically unresolved this is primarily 591 00:25:58,850 --> 00:25:55,500 due to a lack of data associated with 592 00:26:00,590 --> 00:25:58,860 those cases was that a lie well I know 593 00:26:02,810 --> 00:26:00,600 Dr Sean kirpatrick I've known him for 594 00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:02,820 about eight years and you know I 595 00:26:06,169 --> 00:26:04,320 expressed some concerns to Dr 596 00:26:10,190 --> 00:26:06,179 Kirkpatrick about a year ago and told 597 00:26:12,169 --> 00:26:10,200 him what I was starting to uncover and 598 00:26:13,610 --> 00:26:12,179 he didn't follow up with me and he has 599 00:26:15,289 --> 00:26:13,620 my phone number he could have called me 600 00:26:18,730 --> 00:26:15,299 I hope he ultimately does the right 601 00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:18,740 thing he should be able to make the same 602 00:26:24,769 --> 00:26:21,840 investigative discoveries I did it it's 603 00:26:27,769 --> 00:26:24,779 totally crazy if he doesn't so the 604 00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:27,779 implication here is that the head of the 605 00:26:32,090 --> 00:26:28,880 very body 606 00:26:34,909 --> 00:26:32,100 that Congress has ordered 607 00:26:38,210 --> 00:26:34,919 to tell the American public the truth 608 00:26:39,950 --> 00:26:38,220 about uaps is possibly misleading the 609 00:26:42,529 --> 00:26:39,960 American public do you think the 610 00:26:45,409 --> 00:26:42,539 American public is being lied to well 611 00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:45,419 they've been lied to over the years and 612 00:26:52,010 --> 00:26:48,000 I'm hoping that the lies stop 613 00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:52,020 coming up it gets even scarier the UFO 614 00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:56,159 whistleblower says the nhis aren't all 615 00:27:04,909 --> 00:27:01,200 friendly have human beings been hurt 616 00:27:07,610 --> 00:27:04,919 or killed by a non-human intelligence 617 00:27:09,169 --> 00:27:07,620 and guess who they might be working with 618 00:27:12,169 --> 00:27:09,179 and we're in a competition with their 619 00:27:15,769 --> 00:27:12,179 adversaries to understand this and it's 620 00:27:17,740 --> 00:27:15,779 a it's a multi-decade cold war that has 621 00:27:22,970 --> 00:27:17,750 been under our nose for so long 622 00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:22,980 [Music] 623 00:27:27,649 --> 00:27:25,200 it's the common interpretation from some 624 00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:27,659 commentators is that 625 00:27:31,549 --> 00:27:29,039 there is 626 00:27:33,649 --> 00:27:31,559 a non-human species and it's incredibly 627 00:27:35,630 --> 00:27:33,659 benevolently well disposed to the human 628 00:27:36,890 --> 00:27:35,640 race yeah 629 00:27:38,810 --> 00:27:36,900 yeah I think that 630 00:27:40,130 --> 00:27:38,820 that the logical fallacy there is 631 00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:40,140 because they're Advanced they're kind 632 00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:43,020 will never really understand 633 00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:44,760 um full intent in that because we're 634 00:27:52,430 --> 00:27:48,960 we're not them whatever them is or are 635 00:27:54,490 --> 00:27:52,440 uh but I think what appears to be 636 00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:54,500 malevolent activity has has happened 637 00:28:00,350 --> 00:27:58,320 based on not only nuclear site probing 638 00:28:02,810 --> 00:28:00,360 activities 639 00:28:04,490 --> 00:28:02,820 um witness testimony I think at least if 640 00:28:08,570 --> 00:28:04,500 we look at it through a humanistic lens 641 00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:08,580 it does appear negative at least to us 642 00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:10,799 I've been told that there have been 643 00:28:14,769 --> 00:28:12,000 attempts 644 00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:14,779 to bring down craft 645 00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:17,760 but we've acted offensively against 646 00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:19,440 non-human craft 647 00:28:25,310 --> 00:28:21,840 there have been instances and there are 648 00:28:27,710 --> 00:28:25,320 certain techniques have human beings 649 00:28:30,890 --> 00:28:27,720 been hurt 650 00:28:32,810 --> 00:28:30,900 or killed by a non-human intelligence 651 00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:32,820 while I can't get into the specifics 652 00:28:37,250 --> 00:28:35,039 because that would reveal a certain U.S 653 00:28:40,250 --> 00:28:37,260 classified operations 654 00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:40,260 I was briefed by a few individuals on 655 00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:42,600 the program that there were malevolent 656 00:28:47,690 --> 00:28:45,120 events like that now I'm scared people 657 00:28:51,049 --> 00:28:47,700 have just heard you say 658 00:28:58,010 --> 00:28:54,610 May well have murdered human beings 659 00:29:01,130 --> 00:28:58,020 that seems to be the case at one point 660 00:29:03,289 --> 00:29:01,140 yeah and there's more grush says the 661 00:29:06,409 --> 00:29:03,299 United States is not the only country 662 00:29:09,230 --> 00:29:06,419 that's encountered nhi and their 663 00:29:11,690 --> 00:29:09,240 technology he says our geopolitical 664 00:29:13,970 --> 00:29:11,700 Rivals have their own crash retrieval 665 00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:13,980 programs which they are are also 666 00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:16,080 secretly exploiting for military 667 00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:18,240 purposes we're in a competition with 668 00:29:24,110 --> 00:29:21,120 their adversaries to understand this and 669 00:29:27,230 --> 00:29:24,120 it's a it's a multi-decade cold war that 670 00:29:29,690 --> 00:29:27,240 has been under our nose for so long and 671 00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:29,700 you know there is no good way to level 672 00:29:33,710 --> 00:29:32,399 the playing field and hold other nation 673 00:29:36,649 --> 00:29:33,720 states accountable if they're doing 674 00:29:40,010 --> 00:29:36,659 unethical or illicit activity as it 675 00:29:42,649 --> 00:29:40,020 relates to the subject and I think the 676 00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:42,659 obtuse secrecy is actually putting us in 677 00:29:48,169 --> 00:29:46,260 a very dangerous position where a 678 00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:48,179 country might make a breakthrough let's 679 00:29:54,769 --> 00:29:51,360 say we um it's an adversary of ours 680 00:29:58,010 --> 00:29:54,779 and it is so destabilizing you say it's 681 00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:58,020 been a cold war behind the scenes with 682 00:30:02,330 --> 00:30:00,480 Russia and China there has been a cold 683 00:30:05,090 --> 00:30:02,340 war against our with her with her pure 684 00:30:10,490 --> 00:30:08,149 why hasn't Russia or China come out and 685 00:30:12,529 --> 00:30:10,500 spoken publicly about this I think 686 00:30:14,690 --> 00:30:12,539 they're in a similar you know pickle as 687 00:30:16,010 --> 00:30:14,700 us where it's um they understand maybe 688 00:30:17,930 --> 00:30:16,020 the some of the socioeconomic 689 00:30:19,730 --> 00:30:17,940 destabilization factors in their own 690 00:30:22,250 --> 00:30:19,740 Society but if this non-human 691 00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,260 intelligence is so Advanced and at least 692 00:30:27,769 --> 00:30:24,720 some of them are malevolent why haven't 693 00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:27,779 they destroyed us already perhaps some 694 00:30:33,289 --> 00:30:30,960 fragile yet combustible day taunt has 695 00:30:35,450 --> 00:30:33,299 been reached grush has written an 696 00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:35,460 internal document about his discoveries 697 00:30:42,169 --> 00:30:39,120 that refers to agreements that risk 698 00:30:43,490 --> 00:30:42,179 putting our future in Jeopardy and it's 699 00:30:45,649 --> 00:30:43,500 quite clear that you're talking about 700 00:30:47,870 --> 00:30:45,659 agreements between 701 00:30:51,409 --> 00:30:47,880 America 702 00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:51,419 and non-human intelligences have we made 703 00:30:55,610 --> 00:30:52,799 agreements 704 00:30:57,710 --> 00:30:55,620 with non-human intelligences 705 00:31:00,110 --> 00:30:57,720 that's the kind of information I really 706 00:31:01,789 --> 00:31:00,120 hope National leadership is able to get 707 00:31:03,889 --> 00:31:01,799 to the bottom of I need to pin you down 708 00:31:06,049 --> 00:31:03,899 on this are there agreements between 709 00:31:07,310 --> 00:31:06,059 non-human intelligences and the American 710 00:31:08,810 --> 00:31:07,320 government 711 00:31:11,810 --> 00:31:08,820 I think 712 00:31:13,850 --> 00:31:11,820 that's a question that I would 713 00:31:16,850 --> 00:31:13,860 like to know all the details of as well 714 00:31:20,110 --> 00:31:16,860 we do know of at least one agreement 715 00:31:23,690 --> 00:31:20,120 among humans that's worth noting this 716 00:31:26,990 --> 00:31:23,700 1971 agreement between the U.S and the 717 00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:27,000 USSR on measures to reduce the risk of 718 00:31:32,450 --> 00:31:29,279 nuclear war whether or not you believe 719 00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:32,460 Dave grush this document proves the two 720 00:31:39,649 --> 00:31:36,779 superpowers were aware that UAP existed 721 00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:39,659 whatever they were if you look at 722 00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:42,000 article 3 of that treaty it talks about 723 00:31:46,130 --> 00:31:44,159 unidentified objects near nuclear 724 00:31:49,210 --> 00:31:46,140 facilities are interfering with 725 00:31:51,769 --> 00:31:49,220 Communications and that is a treaty 726 00:31:55,610 --> 00:31:51,779 that has been used from what I 727 00:31:57,470 --> 00:31:55,620 understand to notify uh each other if 728 00:31:58,850 --> 00:31:57,480 there's a concerning event and that's a 729 00:32:01,250 --> 00:31:58,860 way of saying to the Russians hey don't 730 00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:01,260 shoot at us it's not us yeah I mean 731 00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:03,299 that's certainly a concern because of 732 00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:05,039 the secrecy it has there is an 733 00:32:10,690 --> 00:32:07,919 environment where you could have almost 734 00:32:15,970 --> 00:32:10,700 like a false flag where true 735 00:32:18,889 --> 00:32:15,980 non-preserve at UAP situation could be 736 00:32:20,269 --> 00:32:18,899 contrived as you know a provocation of 737 00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:20,279 something from a nation-state and we 738 00:32:26,330 --> 00:32:22,799 want to de-escalate that if this is true 739 00:32:29,269 --> 00:32:26,340 if the stakes are so high if the fate of 740 00:32:32,090 --> 00:32:29,279 the human race is at stake perhaps it's 741 00:32:34,669 --> 00:32:32,100 no surprise to hear grush say the U.S 742 00:32:37,370 --> 00:32:34,679 government will do anything to keep 743 00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:37,380 these secrets safe can I put it to you 744 00:32:42,769 --> 00:32:40,559 that crimes must have been committed at 745 00:32:44,750 --> 00:32:42,779 the very least I saw substantive 746 00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:44,760 evidence that white-collar crime was 747 00:32:49,070 --> 00:32:47,760 committed have people been killed to 748 00:32:52,850 --> 00:32:49,080 protect the secret 749 00:32:55,970 --> 00:32:52,860 uh based on the people I talked to that 750 00:32:57,529 --> 00:32:55,980 was an ongoing concern 751 00:32:58,909 --> 00:32:57,539 yeah unfortunately I've heard some 752 00:33:00,649 --> 00:32:58,919 really Un-American things I don't want 753 00:33:02,510 --> 00:33:00,659 to repeat right now so you have a strong 754 00:33:06,350 --> 00:33:02,520 suspicion that people have been murdered 755 00:33:08,810 --> 00:33:06,360 to protect over the years yeah coming up 756 00:33:11,090 --> 00:33:08,820 a reality check is it possible that 757 00:33:13,250 --> 00:33:11,100 you're deluding yourself it's time to 758 00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:13,260 put our whistleblowers credibility to 759 00:33:18,769 --> 00:33:15,840 the test everybody watching this right 760 00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:18,779 now is looking at your face they're 761 00:33:24,410 --> 00:33:20,550 going is this guy for real 762 00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:24,420 [Music] 763 00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:24,720 [Applause] 764 00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:26,880 [Music] 765 00:33:35,090 --> 00:33:32,750 let's talk about what Dave grush doesn't 766 00:33:37,909 --> 00:33:35,100 have he doesn't have Smoking Gun 767 00:33:40,490 --> 00:33:37,919 documents or photos he doesn't have 768 00:33:43,549 --> 00:33:40,500 official confirmation of his claims he 769 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:43,559 just a guy talking on camera and a lot 770 00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:45,600 of his answers to our most pointed 771 00:33:50,509 --> 00:33:48,240 questions sound like this 772 00:33:53,810 --> 00:33:50,519 can you comment unfortunately I cannot 773 00:33:56,810 --> 00:33:53,820 so who is this guy really I don't want 774 00:33:58,370 --> 00:33:56,820 fame or Fortune I'm just here to provide 775 00:34:00,730 --> 00:33:58,380 public leadership on an issue that I 776 00:34:03,769 --> 00:34:00,740 uncovered and I thought it was totally 777 00:34:06,649 --> 00:34:03,779 outrageous news nation has confirmed 778 00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:06,659 through multiple sources that Dave grush 779 00:34:12,109 --> 00:34:09,599 is who he says he is an Air Force 780 00:34:14,810 --> 00:34:12,119 veteran from Pittsburgh who worked in 781 00:34:18,530 --> 00:34:14,820 Military Intelligence and was part of 782 00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:18,540 the UAP task force maybe he's just a 783 00:34:24,050 --> 00:34:21,119 confident well-spoken ex-military 784 00:34:27,290 --> 00:34:24,060 intelligence officer who just happens to 785 00:34:29,869 --> 00:34:27,300 have lost his mind do you have any kind 786 00:34:33,409 --> 00:34:29,879 of mental illness no 787 00:34:35,149 --> 00:34:33,419 have you ever had a psychosis 788 00:34:37,609 --> 00:34:35,159 is there anything in your medical 789 00:34:40,430 --> 00:34:37,619 history that might be capable of being 790 00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:40,440 interpreted as a reason why you might be 791 00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:43,260 confabulating making things no I'm not a 792 00:34:46,609 --> 00:34:45,359 disgruntled employee I resigned on my 793 00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:46,619 own accord because I thought 794 00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:48,960 altruistically it's more appropriate to 795 00:34:52,129 --> 00:34:50,399 show thought leadership on the outside 796 00:34:53,810 --> 00:34:52,139 on this now 797 00:34:55,070 --> 00:34:53,820 um because I you know hit an impasse 798 00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:55,080 within the government to try to right 799 00:34:59,089 --> 00:34:57,359 this wrong so I've got to be blunt about 800 00:35:02,750 --> 00:34:59,099 this you're not making this up this is 801 00:35:05,390 --> 00:35:02,760 not a lie no absolutely not 802 00:35:08,329 --> 00:35:05,400 because everybody watching this right 803 00:35:10,910 --> 00:35:08,339 now is looking at your face they're 804 00:35:13,370 --> 00:35:10,920 going is this guy for real 805 00:35:15,770 --> 00:35:13,380 I am for real and I'm you know I'm 806 00:35:18,230 --> 00:35:15,780 sitting here at Great personal risk and 807 00:35:19,790 --> 00:35:18,240 obvious professional Risk by talking to 808 00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:19,800 you today 809 00:35:23,870 --> 00:35:23,040 you've told us that we really are not 810 00:35:26,329 --> 00:35:23,880 alone 811 00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:26,339 even though you believe what you say is 812 00:35:32,270 --> 00:35:29,040 true you haven't been fed disinformation 813 00:35:35,450 --> 00:35:32,280 it's a common thing in intelligence for 814 00:35:37,490 --> 00:35:35,460 governments to mislead yeah I was very 815 00:35:38,930 --> 00:35:37,500 sensitive to that fact 816 00:35:42,050 --> 00:35:38,940 um you know was this some kind of ruse 817 00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:42,060 against me uh am I being used in any 818 00:35:47,630 --> 00:35:45,359 kind of way and I took about four years 819 00:35:49,370 --> 00:35:47,640 being very methodical before I filed my 820 00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:49,380 my whistleblower complaint to be 821 00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:51,839 absolutely certain of these basic facts 822 00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:54,240 so take me through the process of how 823 00:36:00,170 --> 00:35:58,560 you convinced yourself that this is real 824 00:36:02,030 --> 00:36:00,180 um well based on the the credential 825 00:36:04,430 --> 00:36:02,040 people that came to me some of these 826 00:36:06,349 --> 00:36:04,440 subjects provided be sensitive foreign 827 00:36:09,470 --> 00:36:06,359 intelligence to read a sensitive program 828 00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:09,480 documents and photographs to evaluate 829 00:36:15,050 --> 00:36:11,760 um and then uh described in very 830 00:36:16,609 --> 00:36:15,060 specific detail how all this worked and 831 00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:16,619 they were telling me that the exact 832 00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:19,920 extremely specific details 833 00:36:25,550 --> 00:36:23,520 um that all it all checked out yeah 834 00:36:28,130 --> 00:36:25,560 the other thing I have trouble with it's 835 00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,140 the fact that my experience as a 836 00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:30,480 journalist is it's very hard for 837 00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:33,119 governments to keep secrets most things 838 00:36:39,650 --> 00:36:37,200 leak your government leaks like a sieve 839 00:36:41,329 --> 00:36:39,660 why hasn't this leaked well I've 840 00:36:42,770 --> 00:36:41,339 certainly been the recipient of a lot of 841 00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:42,780 US government secrets and I can tell you 842 00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:44,240 they've never seen the lighter day 843 00:36:51,170 --> 00:36:48,900 that's for sure and I guess ostensibly 844 00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:51,180 this is like a sieved for decades but it 845 00:36:55,310 --> 00:36:52,800 was a very sophisticated disinformation 846 00:36:58,130 --> 00:36:55,320 that campaign where you know they have 847 00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:58,140 allowed some of the truth to come out 848 00:37:02,150 --> 00:36:59,760 um through some of their their trade 849 00:37:04,490 --> 00:37:02,160 crafts but they've disenfranchised 850 00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:04,500 people they've stigmatized it they made 851 00:37:10,849 --> 00:37:07,200 it like as a total like wacky thing to 852 00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:10,859 talk about so anybody who may come 853 00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:12,480 forward with that kind of information is 854 00:37:17,690 --> 00:37:14,640 looked like a you know total tinfoil hot 855 00:37:20,329 --> 00:37:17,700 guy because it's a perfect amalgamation 856 00:37:21,290 --> 00:37:20,339 of disinformation to just make it look 857 00:37:23,930 --> 00:37:21,300 crazy 858 00:37:26,930 --> 00:37:23,940 the best reason to believe Dave grush 859 00:37:29,510 --> 00:37:26,940 may be this document remember that 860 00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:29,520 whistleblower complaint he filed it 861 00:37:34,609 --> 00:37:33,119 would seem it hasn't fallen on deaf ears 862 00:37:36,050 --> 00:37:34,619 so the Inspector General of the 863 00:37:38,810 --> 00:37:36,060 intelligence Services of the United 864 00:37:40,609 --> 00:37:38,820 States has the information you've got 865 00:37:42,770 --> 00:37:40,619 yes 866 00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:42,780 and more importantly the Inspector 867 00:37:48,109 --> 00:37:45,839 General made a determination about The 868 00:37:50,510 --> 00:37:48,119 credibility of your complaint they found 869 00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:50,520 after interviewing myself in the 870 00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:52,800 subjects and other subjects that I'm not 871 00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:55,200 even cognizant on who they were they 872 00:37:59,089 --> 00:37:56,880 found my complaint uh urgent and 873 00:38:01,550 --> 00:37:59,099 credible for the intelligence committees 874 00:38:05,150 --> 00:38:01,560 the word credible is important you 875 00:38:07,370 --> 00:38:05,160 appreciate so an official investigatory 876 00:38:09,710 --> 00:38:07,380 body of the United States government has 877 00:38:13,550 --> 00:38:09,720 determined that your allegations are 878 00:38:16,430 --> 00:38:13,560 credible correct coming up if it is true 879 00:38:18,829 --> 00:38:16,440 then what what are we going to do if the 880 00:38:21,890 --> 00:38:18,839 biggest secret on the planet is now out 881 00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:21,900 in the open and what are they going to 882 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:25,200 do how will the non-human intelligence 883 00:38:36,770 --> 00:38:27,210 react 884 00:38:42,589 --> 00:38:39,310 this is one of the gravest 885 00:38:44,089 --> 00:38:42,599 Constitutional crises for your country 886 00:38:47,089 --> 00:38:44,099 ever 887 00:38:48,589 --> 00:38:47,099 absolutely give me some hope here there 888 00:38:50,329 --> 00:38:48,599 are good people there are very good 889 00:38:51,950 --> 00:38:50,339 people and I want that message to be 890 00:38:54,349 --> 00:38:51,960 Crystal Clear 891 00:38:56,930 --> 00:38:54,359 um let's not demonize holistically the 892 00:39:00,589 --> 00:38:56,940 US government there's a whole Army of 893 00:39:03,170 --> 00:39:00,599 people that want change I am one of tens 894 00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:03,180 if not hundreds of individuals within 895 00:39:07,010 --> 00:39:04,560 the government on these programs that 896 00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:07,020 would like a change 897 00:39:13,069 --> 00:39:10,320 does David grush want as he said here 898 00:39:15,470 --> 00:39:13,079 tonight he wants the nhi technology to 899 00:39:18,410 --> 00:39:15,480 be shared so the rest of the world can 900 00:39:20,329 --> 00:39:18,420 benefit from it and I use nuclear 901 00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:20,339 weapons or Nuclear Physics as an example 902 00:39:24,890 --> 00:39:22,800 it's an acknowledged program we have 903 00:39:27,170 --> 00:39:24,900 nuclear weapons you don't get to know 904 00:39:30,530 --> 00:39:27,180 the designs but Nuclear Physics 905 00:39:32,810 --> 00:39:30,540 holistically is unclassified Academia 906 00:39:36,050 --> 00:39:32,820 studies it and why would you suppress 907 00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:36,060 basic astrophysics astrobiology other 908 00:39:41,210 --> 00:39:38,400 hard and soft Sciences broadly it's 909 00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:41,220 totally nuts Crush has left the 910 00:39:45,650 --> 00:39:43,680 government he wasn't part of Arrow 911 00:39:49,490 --> 00:39:45,660 during the most recent Congressional 912 00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:49,500 hearings when still more UAP were 913 00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:52,560 revealed including this one captured by 914 00:39:57,950 --> 00:39:55,680 a drone in the Middle East in 2022. 915 00:40:00,890 --> 00:39:57,960 there it goes his whistleblower case 916 00:40:03,230 --> 00:40:00,900 will take months to conclude in the 917 00:40:05,930 --> 00:40:03,240 meantime he says he's starting a 918 00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:05,940 scientific foundation and he's willing 919 00:40:11,870 --> 00:40:08,700 to speak to anyone in Washington who has 920 00:40:14,210 --> 00:40:11,880 the clearance and the desire to hear the 921 00:40:16,490 --> 00:40:14,220 classified information he could not 922 00:40:19,370 --> 00:40:16,500 share here I make myself available to 923 00:40:22,609 --> 00:40:19,380 secretary Austin dni Haynes who is a 924 00:40:24,650 --> 00:40:22,619 recipient of my complaints I'm happy to 925 00:40:28,010 --> 00:40:24,660 further brief elected officials on the 926 00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:28,020 specific ecosystem of secrecy down to 927 00:40:34,750 --> 00:40:31,920 the fine details whoever they are 928 00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:34,760 how will the non-human intelligence 929 00:40:39,530 --> 00:40:37,680 react to the Revelation that human 930 00:40:42,530 --> 00:40:39,540 beings now know 931 00:40:44,089 --> 00:40:42,540 they're here yeah I mean obviously the 932 00:40:46,430 --> 00:40:44,099 non-human intelligences have been around 933 00:40:48,050 --> 00:40:46,440 for a while at least multiple decades in 934 00:40:49,490 --> 00:40:48,060 modern history and they've allowed 935 00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:49,500 ourselves to annihilate ourselves 936 00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:53,040 genocide War famine Etc so at the very 937 00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:54,720 least I think they're kind of neutral on 938 00:41:00,109 --> 00:40:56,880 what humans decide to do with their Free 939 00:41:03,290 --> 00:41:00,119 Will and as for how we the human race 940 00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:03,300 will react to his story here gresh 941 00:41:08,329 --> 00:41:05,520 evinces that quintessentially human 942 00:41:10,490 --> 00:41:08,339 characteristic optimism I don't have 943 00:41:13,609 --> 00:41:10,500 this utopian ideology that this is going 944 00:41:16,310 --> 00:41:13,619 to you know solve real problems stop War 945 00:41:18,530 --> 00:41:16,320 entirely but all I want is a moment of 946 00:41:20,690 --> 00:41:18,540 pause and to see if the subject unites 947 00:41:22,250 --> 00:41:20,700 us as we've obviously become more 948 00:41:24,530 --> 00:41:22,260 divided over the last couple decades 949 00:41:26,990 --> 00:41:24,540 because if anything else 950 00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:27,000 what you're revealing May mean we all 951 00:41:32,930 --> 00:41:29,220 start thinking of ourselves not as 952 00:41:36,770 --> 00:41:32,940 American Australian Russian Chinese 953 00:41:38,089 --> 00:41:36,780 but as human human family I think that's